Comments on: Guide to Decision Makers Guide (DMG) http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/2009/06/22/guide-to-decision-makers-guide-dmg/ Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:12:47 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: wayne http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/2009/06/22/guide-to-decision-makers-guide-dmg/comment-page-1/#comment-79 wayne Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:03:09 +0000 http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/?p=43#comment-79 As soon as you challenge the DWP on anything and this now includes the flexi new deal providers you will be sanctioned as it is not a criminal issue so you are presumed guilty.Despite them acting in this way does not mean you cannot have it over turned. Theirs always free legal assistance (ie cab) to help on such matters. I myself in the past have been sanctioned twice and each time had it overturned with the help of free legal assistance.Now i must point out that both these sanctions were unjust hence my victory but non the less i doubt this would have been the outcome if i had'nt seeked help as it was only then that they took the matter seriously and acted. People will always prey on your ignorance so start using the freedom of information act as once you know the rules their easy to navigate and don't stop there as the more you know the less they will try and pull. As soon as you challenge the DWP on anything and this now includes the flexi new deal providers you will be sanctioned as it is not a criminal issue so you are presumed guilty.Despite them acting in this way does not mean you cannot have it over turned. Theirs always free legal assistance (ie cab) to help on such matters.
I myself in the past have been sanctioned twice and each time had it overturned with the help of free legal assistance.Now i must point out that both these sanctions were unjust hence my victory but non the less i doubt this would have been the outcome if i had’nt seeked help as it was only then that they took the matter seriously and acted.
People will always prey on your ignorance so start using the freedom of information act as once you know the rules their easy to navigate and don’t stop there as the more you know the less they will try and pull.

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]]> By: ken http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/2009/06/22/guide-to-decision-makers-guide-dmg/comment-page-1/#comment-78 ken Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:48:42 +0000 http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/?p=43#comment-78 DMG 34091 Hearsay “evidence” is acceptable. this is complete nonsense,you cannot without proof accuse someone of anything,this would never stand up in any situation. new deal i found was notorious for twisting and turning references to warnings that were never revived,being lent on by the new deal personal advisor was common for simply being unemployed. its all complete and utter rubbish but that underlined the whole new deal program. i read earlier of old computers/old news papers telephone directories no soap in the toilets where i was there wasnt even hot water in the toilet or tea room even though there was a sink, cups were filthy hygiene non existant this appears to be seen across the program.they called themselves a charitable organisation the way i was treated wasnt very charitable. now there is A4e with 700 million and things still havent improved,it will all go down in reality in history as failing it has in the past and will in the future,though its to be suspected that they know that already. only those who reap the vast amounts of money will end up winners the rest unemployed/taxpayer are the losers,hant it always been that way though. DMG 34091 Hearsay “evidence” is acceptable.

this is complete nonsense,you cannot without proof accuse someone of anything,this would never stand up in any situation.
new deal i found was notorious for twisting and turning references to warnings that were never revived,being lent on by the new deal personal advisor was common for simply being unemployed.
its all complete and utter rubbish but that underlined the whole new deal program.
i read earlier of old computers/old news papers telephone directories no soap in the toilets where i was there wasnt even hot water in the toilet or tea room even though there was a sink, cups were filthy hygiene non existant this appears to be seen across the program.they called themselves a charitable organisation the way i was treated wasnt very charitable.
now there is A4e with 700 million and things still havent improved,it will all go down in reality in history as failing it has in the past and will in the future,though its to be suspected that they know that already.
only those who reap the vast amounts of money will end up winners the rest unemployed/taxpayer are the losers,hant it always been that way though.

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]]> By: ALLAN JOHNSTONE http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/2009/06/22/guide-to-decision-makers-guide-dmg/comment-page-1/#comment-77 ALLAN JOHNSTONE Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:49:23 +0000 http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/?p=43#comment-77 the way it is worded with the word offence you would think you were being charged by the police for refusing to do new deal mind you it would only take some chinless wonder sitting behind a desk in whitehall to think of that and bang everyone who refuses to do new deal is arrested and charged with refusing to do new deal but how do they dispose of the case if it goes to court they cant fine you if you have no money ie your benefit has been stopped so therfore the only solution is to either jail you or put you on a comminity service order personally i would rather be jailed than do a cso at least you have a bed and four meals a day also it would cost the tax payer more money to keep you in jail for two weeks than what you get in benefit for six months the way it is worded with the word offence you would think you were being charged by the police for refusing to do new deal mind you it would only take some chinless wonder sitting behind a desk in whitehall to think of that and bang everyone who refuses to do new deal is arrested and charged with refusing to do new deal but how do they dispose of the case if it goes to court they cant fine you if you have no money ie your benefit has been stopped so therfore the only solution is to either jail you or put you on a comminity service order personally i would rather be jailed than do a cso at least you have a bed and four meals a day also it would cost the tax payer more money to keep you in jail for two weeks than what you get in benefit for six months

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]]> By: Flexible New Deal http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/2009/06/22/guide-to-decision-makers-guide-dmg/comment-page-1/#comment-76 Flexible New Deal Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:07:01 +0000 http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/?p=43#comment-76 Thanks for posting again. The local Jobcentre Plus office via a manager threatened me with 6 months benefit sanctions. It wasn't until later I found out that they can only impose a 2 week sanction. I therefore done this blog and am spreading the knowledge. DMG 34025 clearly states "<em>A 26 week sanction is only applicable where a previous 4 week sanction or 26 week sanction was imposed within the last 12 months.</em>" DMG 34005 states that New Deal offences are always fixed sanctions - 2 week, 4 week and 26 week (for NDYP) and/or also DMG 34015 states "<em>Fixed sanctions for losing, giving up or failing to attend a training programme or refusing to apply or neglecting an opportunity for a training programme</em>". The main one DMG 34017 states a "<em>2 week fixed benefit sanction unless another offence committed in 12 months prior</em>" - if you refuse a placement while at a New Deal provider you are likely to be exited then later resubmitted to the course. Failing all else, a 2 week sanction is the maximum they can impose. Thanks for posting again.

The local Jobcentre Plus office via a manager threatened me with 6 months benefit sanctions. It wasn’t until later I found out that they can only impose a 2 week sanction. I therefore done this blog and am spreading the knowledge.

DMG 34025 clearly states “A 26 week sanction is only applicable where a previous 4 week sanction or 26 week sanction was imposed within the last 12 months.”

DMG 34005 states that New Deal offences are always fixed sanctions – 2 week, 4 week and 26 week (for NDYP) and/or also DMG 34015 states “Fixed sanctions for losing, giving up or failing to attend a training programme or refusing to apply or neglecting an opportunity for a training programme“.

The main one DMG 34017 states a “2 week fixed benefit sanction unless another offence committed in 12 months prior” – if you refuse a placement while at a New Deal provider you are likely to be exited then later resubmitted to the course. Failing all else, a 2 week sanction is the maximum they can impose.

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]]> By: ALLAN JOHNSTON http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/2009/06/22/guide-to-decision-makers-guide-dmg/comment-page-1/#comment-75 ALLAN JOHNSTON Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:33:16 +0000 http://www.newdealscandal.co.uk/flexiblenewdeal/?p=43#comment-75 My nd threatened benefit sanctions for six months if i refused to do nd placement for six months but had never been sanctioned previously for anything so therfore am i right in thinking he shot himself in the foot there i also avoided bs by signing off immediately so therefore if i ever have to claim jsa there is no benefit sanction mark against me. another employment advisor tried to threaten me with benefit sanctioning but pointed out i had no previous marks against me and backed off after checking on the computer despite this and his "selecting" jobs for me including working in a bookies and threatened with benefit sanctioning because i said i couldnt do betting odds thankfully i had to do one of those pshycometric tests online which i deliberately unknown to him failed i also got a rejection letter for a hr admin job he selected for me and didnt get a factory labourer job he forced me to apply for as vacancy was already filled but was told that the flt licence and h&s cert was a requirement for the job i pointed out i had neither and suggested the details were changed to state this to save wasting peoples time though i did point out jc had told me to apply for it or face benefit sanctions als nd told me to apply for bike builder job at halfords when i said i would have to get travel money from jc was told by the person i was speaking to if thats a problem dont blame me the jc told me i had to apply for this job oh if thats the case then the vacancy is filled! My nd threatened benefit sanctions for six months if i refused to do nd placement for six months but had never been sanctioned previously for anything so therfore am i right in thinking he shot himself in the foot there i also avoided bs by signing off immediately so therefore if i ever have to claim jsa there is no benefit sanction mark against me.

another employment advisor tried to threaten me with benefit sanctioning but pointed out i had no previous marks against me and backed off after checking on the computer despite this and his “selecting” jobs for me including working in a bookies and threatened with benefit sanctioning because i said i couldnt do betting odds thankfully i had to do one of those pshycometric tests online which i deliberately unknown to him failed i also got a rejection letter for a hr admin job he selected for me and didnt get a factory labourer job he forced me to apply for as vacancy was already filled but was told that the flt licence and h&s cert was a requirement for the job i pointed out i had neither and suggested the details were changed to state this to save wasting peoples time though i did point out jc had told me to apply for it or face benefit sanctions als nd told me to apply for bike builder job at halfords when i said i would have to get travel money from jc was told by the person i was speaking to if thats a problem dont blame me the jc told me i had to apply for this job oh if thats the case then the vacancy is filled!

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